Toronto FC trade Nathan Sturgis To Houston Dynamo
by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 28, 2011 5:20 PM EST
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Edit: It is officially Sturgis going to Houston, with a conditional draft pick in 2014 coming back, which could mean anything really in MLS.
So, according to Jose de Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle on twitter, Houston Dynamo have made a trade for a 24 year old Defensive Midfielder, and there's really not all that many of those in MLS, and Nathan Sturgis just happens to be one of them.
Over at Dynamo Theory they have a little more insight, and some other options, but it's no secret that Sturgis hasn't really fit into Aron Winter's plans all along, and he's currently behind quite a few others for a Defensive Midfield spot, so a trade would make sense. The conditional pick reported to be coming the other way (probably nowhere near the first round pick Earl Cochrane gave up for him), along with the cap space created is probably the best we could hope for at this stage.
All pure speculation at this point, but hey, that's more than we've had in a while, so why not go with it until the trade is announced. I'll update here with whatever news comes along.
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yeah, who knows what a conditional draft pick means in mls. conditional on what? games sturgis plays, houston making the playoffs, tfc picking up some salary? who really knows? I doubt it’ll ever really come out.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions
Can guarantee all we will ever here is what pick TFC ends up getting and no reasoning as to why we got that pack. It really could be conditional on any number of things like you suggested. Normally it is based on some measure of success either for the individual player of for the team. Then it is also based on a period of time set by the two clubs dependent on when the conditional pick is for.
Just a random example could be: If Sturgis makes 30 appearances for Houston over the next two season Toronto will get Houston’s 2014 first round pick, otherwise they get the second round pick if he plays less games.
I am sure that is better than the actual deal but that is an example of what a conditional pick deal can look like.
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85,000
was sturgis’ salary last year, so that’s not a massive cap saving, but will certainly help.
once again, well done earl cochrane.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 28, 2011 8:12 PM EST reply actions
That is actually a big savings. You have to look around the league and see some of the solid contributors making veteran minimum. If TFC is smart that cap space can be turned in to a pair of serviceable players for the same money. Either that or one fairly decent player. Toronto is not looking for that many starters so depth guys need not take up huge cap space.
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yep
could go a couple of different ways. pick up a couple of bog standard players who’\ll provide depth, won’t ever be anything great, but won’t fuck up if they get called upon.
or try and pick up someone at about the same pay, and hope he ends up better than sturgis.
one thing for sure, better to gamble than sit on sturgis as a backup player with very little upside for that amount.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 28, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
We all know by now that Winter does not work that way. If he has a known quantity in a player that is not good enough he will move them on and take a shot on a player who might just be better. TFC is not a good enough team yet to just be happy with players like Sturgis who are only okay. Need to keep taking these chances and get better one piece at a time.
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Eddy Viator: $101 K
I think the management team will continue to have a mix of hits and misses in these types of depth/squad player signings, also considering that there doesn’t seem to be much room to maneuver within the club’s salary cap situation.
hahaha!
wait. we did get rid of viator right? he’s not still around on that salary.
you take a bunch of chances, get 50% of them right, then the amount of chances you have to take next year is smaller, keep winning some, losing some, and eventually you end up with a decent top 18-22 players, and then can start taking on some mediocrity like sturgis to round things out.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sturgis on Twitter
“Toronto was a great learning experience but am excited to be moving on to Houston! Looking forward to joining up with the team!”
A classy last word from him really. No shot at the club, the country, or the fans which is nice even if it does not give us anything to talk about for weeks and months!
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Now THAT, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is the correct way to exit.
by John Leung on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And he had a reason to be sour after winter nailed him to the bench and the reserves.
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by Dave Rowaan on Dec 29, 2011 8:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I’m sure there’s all sorts of negatives involved with that ‘great learning experience’ and i get the impression he didn’t really enjoy his time here and lack of playing time etc, but a good professional exit, nice to see.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 29, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Oh look what I found
“Congrats @NathanSturgis .best of luck in Houston. #sturghino”
Who wants to guess which bitter, Canada hating, former TFC player tweeted that out? I only saw it because of Matt Gold’s retweet. Apparently getting out of TFC is now something to be congratulated for?
This time I am probably just being cruel and he is just wishing a friend all the best in his new club.
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yeah, seems a fairly harmless one that, more pro sturgis than anti-tfc.
wonder if gargan will throw out another tweet. he’s been more critical of tfc than peterson ever was, just didn’t come out with an anti toronto/canada tweet.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 29, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Gargan is a proven twat though, so I wouldn’t put it beyond him.
by John Leung on Dec 29, 2011 6:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
and there it is
http://twitter.com/#!/RealDanGargan
@jacob__peterson I’m pretty sure from where I’m standing I can see @nathansturgis doing back flips in his living room in Toronto right now.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 29, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions
I was just coming here to post that! Dan Gargan could not pass up the chance for yet another snipe at TFC and this time I am certainly not reading to much into the tweet. Gargan must think everyone wants to get out of the club as fast as they can.
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Being Fair
This is what happened when Daune Rollins called out Gargan and Peterson for their seemingly anti-Canadian tweets:
@24thminute to be honest, the fan support in TO has nothing to do with the excitement of moving to a better personal situation elsewhere.
@24thminute fans in TO have always been & will continue to be, at the tops of the MLS, and the top of the hearts/memories of every player..
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always got the impression that gargan liked the fans and the club, just seems to have a bit of an issue with Winter, seems like a lot of ex players did (mainly seems to be the americans, must have been quite the culture clash in the first half of the season), and that’s why they’re ex players.
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by Duncan Fletcher on Dec 29, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions
for sure, he had issues with the way he was treated at the club and that is fine but I am not a fan of how he is so ready to vent them on twitter. That said he is probably right that Sturgis is happy as no player wants to be at a club where they are not getting the chance to play on a regular basis.
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